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Ask an Outsider: My pal is a good journey companion, however he’s flaky. What ought to I do? 


Welcome to Ask an Outsider. We’re right here to reply your most urgent questions on having fun with time outdoors, like the way to make outdoorsy buddies, tips about going No. 2 within the woods, or the way to reconcile a distinct danger tolerance with a companion. Our recommendation givers are consultants from each inside and out of doors the co-op who draw from their very own expertise and data to assist inform yours.

To reply this column, we tapped REI Co-op Member Sidney Baptista, who based the Boston-based PIONEERS Run Crew in 2017 to create neighborhood and later created PYNRS Efficiency Streetwear. He shares his response.

We would additionally like to listen to the way you’d method this example—scroll to the top to weigh in. 

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Pricey Outsider, 

I’ve pal I like to backpack, hike and camp with. We have identified one another for a very long time and have gone on many out of doors adventures collectively. He tells humorous tales, surprises our group with gourmand treats, and is all the time the primary to assist when one thing goes improper. 

There’s only one drawback: He is flaky. He’ll decide to a bunch journey however present up late or under no circumstances. Generally, he’ll ask to affix in on the final minute after our plans are set. We accommodate him as a result of our outings aren’t the identical with out him. However, more and more, I’ve change into resentful. What ought to I do? 

Val M., REI Co-op Member since 2020


Pricey Val,

Hiya! Thanks for writing in and sorry to listen to about your tenting conundrum. This can be a problem I’ve handled personally, and I’m positive many others can relate.  

My first piece of recommendation could appear apparent, however typically the best options are straightforward to miss: Attempt speaking along with your pal concerning the scenario. Primarily based on what you’ve written, it appears like your pal is a extremely nice man. He has good vitality, is tremendous useful and other people wish to be round him. Even when he’s late or canceling plans, the group is genuinely excited when he does present up. Due to this, it’s doable he’s oblivious to the disruption that he creates, or doesn’t understand the complete extent of it. He could even have grown accustomed to dropping out and in of plans at this level.  

An trustworthy dialog may go a good distance in opening his eyes and serving to him be extra considerate about making—and sticking to—commitments sooner or later. Nobody needs to really feel like a burden or a nuisance, so bringing consciousness to the scenario is a good first step.  

Attempt broaching the subject whereas experiencing the outside collectively. Begin by highlighting how nice a time you’re having and that you simply wish to proceed doing joint journeys with him. Then ease into the subject of planning. Inform him that it may be anxious when folks cancel plans or be a part of a visit on the final minute. Discuss concerning the significance of getting everybody on the identical web page for each logistical and security causes. This can mean you can present your pal with some perception into your individual perspective, and in addition give him an opportunity to share his.  

My different piece of recommendation can be to examine in with your self to determine the place your boundaries and your tolerance for this type of conduct lie. There’s a actual risk that even in case you do have a dialog along with your pal, he could not change—or could not change as a lot as you or the group would love. This might simply be how your pal operates.  

You talked about that you’ve got already begun to really feel resentful. To stop this from rising to a degree of no return, take into consideration how, when and what you invite him to sooner or later. For instance, you might select to solely invite him on journeys during which the plans wouldn’t be dramatically altered by whether or not or not he reveals up. You can do your finest to bypass circumstances that contain splitting prices evenly amongst contributors and keep away from placing him answerable for bringing essential provides that the group might be counting on, similar to meals, survival gear or a shared tent.  

Set planning deadlines and maintain your pal to them. If he confirms however backs out after the deadline has handed, you might take into account leaving him off the invite on your subsequent tour. If he tries to affix late after the deadline has handed, let him know that it sadly can’t be accommodated this time however that you may be positive to let him learn about your subsequent journey. This will really feel unnatural within the brief time period on condition that it’s outdoors the scope of how your relationship presently exists. Nevertheless, in the long run, it will provide you with extra lifelike expectations of your pal, make planning extra predictable and assist maintain your resentment at bay.  

Hopefully, the following tips result in some constructive adjustments for you, your pal and your group journeys. Better of luck and completely happy trails! 

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